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Cameron Murray's avatar

Thanks for engaging Jeff. A beer would be nice. Your photo is Hong Kong, no? I'll be there in Dec if you are! We can see if density there has made homes cheap ;-)

On the topic at hand, what's you view on why homes are built? Why are they not built? That's the key to all this.

Once we get past our areas of agreement, it seems to boil down to these questions.

I sense your answer is that property owners are in a hurry to build more homes (more per period, not just more density on a site) regardless of demand conditions. That as soon as redevelopment has a higher residual than the current use, property owners will rush to redevelop without regard to their effects of those actions on soaking up demand and hence changing future rents and prices. In this view, "supply" (rate of new housing produced in a period of time across a region) is tightly controlled by regulations, not by market choices of property owners about when to redevelop. But planning regulations don't control WHEN property owners choose to develop, only WHERE.

I disagree. And the economics on this is pretty clear, just widely ignored, as I explain here

https://www.fresheconomicthinking.com/p/explainer-markets-efficiently-delay?utm_source=publication-search

What is more interesting is when you look around the world and historically you find the property market doing the same old thing.

Your argument seems to revolve around wanting a different spatial distribution of dwellings. Fine. Planning DOES change the spatial distribution of homes, as intended. But make the spatial distribution more efficient will make average dwellings better and hence higher value.

Mike Fellman explains this in his Boyd institute interview.

Anyway, I have a book digging into the many details in this debate, so perhaps we should catch up after you've read that.

https://www.amazon.com.au/Great-Housing-Hijack-keeping-Australia/dp/176147085X/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=3SE0YQSOAC9DD&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.KLD7-bxkI5wjl2TA5DgDyA.G2H1exl8zJbIqQhaguwScroB7jUXrXrzRF4GqTRbdHc&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+great+housing+hijack+by+cameron+murray&qid=1753139618&sprefix=great+housing+hijack,aps,307&sr=8-1

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Scott C. Rowe's avatar

I work for large, international home builders. If we do not have clear permission, or as we would say in the states “entitlement“ to construct, then we cannot expect a rational investor to support a project without commensurate reward.

Capricious land use policy, and the ability for community groups to delay or cancel projects, increases the cost of building by increasing the price of investment, and by extending the investment horizon. There is a real cost to tying capital down for 10 years on what should be a five year project.

So, no surprise that large builders simply avoid regions that are Nimby by policy or proclivity.

As for government subsidized housing… You do know we have tried this before? The results were literally ugly.

It turns out that the government is really good at slowly building, dysfunctional, ugly, unpopular ineffective… Well, I seem to be running out of adjectives.

Anyway, the underlying difficulty is the US love affair with single-family housing. Even when the houses are built zero lot line, no lawn. We need a multi family product that appeals so strongly, that the average citizen is willing to put up with proximity to people. Nobody likes people.

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